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What Think Ye of Salvation by Grace Our Relationship With the Lord The Three Pillars of Eternity Joseph Smith: A Revealer of Christ Celestial Marriage (). Author: Bruce R. McConkie Type Runtime: Download Audio Here Our Relationship with the Lord [audio:kinenbicounter.info McConkiemp3?type=2&fname= Making Your Calling and Election Sure. Because we have the truth about the Godhead and our relationship to Them, we have the PDF · Audio MP3 Our first article of faith declares, “We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. As Elder Bruce R. McConkie wrote just before his death: “In the ultimate and final.
And so he asked. And as you know, he failed; he was totally unable to translate. This caused some concern, I suppose, to him and the Prophet. We use the agency with which we have been endowed. We use every faculty and capacity and ability that we possess to bring about the eventuality that may be involved. I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.
But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong; therefore, you cannot write that which is sacred save it be given you from me.
It never occurred to me to ask him. I went out and found the girl I wanted; she suited me; I evaluated and weighed the proposition, and it just seemed a hundred percent to me as though this ought to be.
A more perfect thing to have done would have been to counsel with him relative to the decision and get a spiritual confirmation that the conclusion, which I by my agency and faculties had arrived at, was the right one.
There was a man whose name is not so much as preserved to us in the ancient record. From other sources we know his name was Moriancumer. He was the spiritual leader, initially, of the Jaredite people.
As they started their progress from the Tower of Babel to their American promised land, he was the one that got in communion with the Lord to get the direction, the spiritual guidance, that they, as a people, needed.
And some very interesting things occurred. So he built the barges. But this time they were going to be used under some peculiar and difficult circumstances, and he needed something more than was now present in them: And this was a problem that was beyond him. This is something you should have solved.
Agency or Inspiration—Which?
Why are you troubling me? Get out and solve the problem. I picked this up in a wilderness area outside of a little community called Crystalina, in a nation called Brazil, in South America. The Brethren thought I was off touring missions, but actually I was doing a little rock hunting. And in that connection, I hope you got the message that the brother of Jared was a rock hound also. Well, the brother of Jared took sixteen little crystals of some sort he could hold all of them in his hands ; he took them up on the mount.
And so Moriancumer said to the Lord: And the Lord did what the brother of Jared asked, and this is the occasion when he then saw the finger of the Lord; and, while he was in tune, he received revelation that exceeded anything that any prophet had ever gained up to that moment. In the early history of the Church, the Lord commanded the Saints to assemble in a certain place in Missouri. The decree went forth: The Lord is talking: Now, when you counsel with the Lord, you talk something over.
I bring my children in and we counsel on a problem. What do you want to do in this situation? Well now, the Lord has all wisdom, all knowledge, and all power; he knows how to govern and control and direct us in a perfect manner.
He lets us determine what we should do, but he expects us to counsel with him. Now, after the Lord had said this to the Presiding Bishopric of the Church, he gave the principle that governed in that situation, and it governs in all situations. And this is one of our glorious revealed truths. For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward. Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness; For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves.
And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward. God has revealed himself to us in this day even as he did to the prophets of old. We know thereby that he is a personal Being in whose image man was made. We know that we are his spirit children; that he endowed us with the divine gift of agency; and that he ordained the laws whereby we might advance and progress and become like him.
We know that God is the only supreme and independent Being in whom all fullness and perfection dwell and that he is omnipotent, omniscient, and, by the power of his Spirit, omnipresent. These three are one—one God if you will—in purposes, in powers, and in perfections.
But each has his own severable work to perform, and mankind has a defined and known and specific relationship to each one of them.
It is of these relationships that we shall now speak. Doctrines of Eternal Life Let us set forth those doctrines and concepts that a gracious God has given to us in this day and which must be understood in order to gain eternal life.
We worship the Father and him only and no one else. We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense—the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us.
Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator. For unto such hath God promised his Spirit.
Our Relationship with the Lord - Bruce R. McConkie - BYU Speeches
And they who worship him, must worship in spirit and in truth. We love and serve both the Father and the Son. In the full, final, and ultimate sense of the word the divine decree is: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy might, mind, and strength; and in the name of Jesus Christ thou shalt serve him.
If ye love me, keep my commandments. They tie the Father and the Son together, as one, so that both receive our love and service. Christ himself loves, serves, and worships the Father. Though Christ is God, yet there is a Deity above him, a Deity whom he worships. That God is the Father. To Mary Magdalene, the first mortal to see a resurrected person, Jesus said: I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. In this sense the Firstborn, our Elder Brother, goes forward as we do.
The plan of salvation is the gospel of the Father The plan of salvation originated with the Father; he is the Author and Finisher of our faith in the final sense; he ordained the laws by obedience to which both we and Christ can become like him.
What he did was ask whom he should send to be the Redeemer in the plan he devised. Christ and Lucifer both volunteered, and the Lord chose his Firstborn and rejected the amendatory offer of the son of the morning. Christ worked out his own salvation by worshiping the Father.
After the Firstborn of the Father, while yet a spirit being, had gained power and intelligence that made him like unto God; after he had become, under the Father, the Creator of worlds without number; after he had reigned on the throne of eternal power as the Lord Omnipotent—after all this he yet had to gain a mortal and then an immortal body. He received not of the fulness at the first, but received grace for grace; And he received not of the fulness at first, but continued from grace to grace, until he received a fulness.
Finally, after his resurrection, he received a fulness of the glory of the Father; And he received all power, both in heaven and on earth, and the glory of the Father was with him, for he dwelt in him. All men must worship the Father in the same way Christ did in order to gain salvation.
Thus spake the Lord: What a wondrous concept this is! The Father sent the Son to work out the infinite and eternal atonement. As temporal and spiritual death came by the fall of Adam, so immortality and eternal life come by the atonement of Christ.
Such was and is and ever shall be the plan of the Father.
Agency or Inspiration — Which? - Bruce R. McConkie - BYU Speeches
Adam was sent to earth to fall, and Christ came to ransom men from the fall. Thus the Father sent forth this call in the councils of eternity: He said he had power to lay down his life and to take it again because he had been so commanded by the Father.
The great and eternal redemption, in all its phases, was wrought by Christ using the power of the Father. The Son came to do the will of the Father in all things. I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. I came into the world to do the will of my Father, because my Father sent me. And my Father sent me that I might be lifted up upon the cross. And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
God, through Christ, is reconciling men to himself. Fallen man is carnal, sensual, and devilish by nature; he is spiritually dead; he is out of harmony with the Father. Thus, as Paul said, All things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself.
Christ is the Mediator between God and man. Because all people must be reconciled to God in order to be saved, he, in his goodness and grace, has provided a Mediator for them. There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
If there were no Mediator, we could never be reconciled to the Father, and hence there would be no salvation. Christ is our Intercessor with the Father, our Advocate in the courts above. In the process of mediating between us and our Maker, in the process of reconciling sin-ridden men with a sin-free God, Christ makes intercession for all who repent. He advocates the cause of those who believe in him.
Our eternal fellowship is with the Father and the Son. Our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. God was in Christ manifesting himself to the world.
Thus in his appearance, in his person, and in his attributes, the Son is the image and likeness of the Father. The four gospels are a treasure house of knowledge concerning the Father because they set forth what the Son is like, and he is like his Father. Christ is the Revealer of the Father God is and can be known only by revelation; he stands revealed or he remains forever unknown.
Christ is the Way to the Father. Christ proclaims the gospel of the Father. In the ultimate sense the word of salvation comes from the Father. Said Paul, God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son. When Jesus quoted the Old Testament prophets to the Nephites, he attributed their words to the Father.
Though the revelations came from the Son, yet in the ultimate sense the truths taught were those of the Father.
We are also aware of many instances in which Jesus, acting by divine investiture of authority, speaks in the first person as though he were the Father. My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. Christ glorifies the Father and so must we.
I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. The very pattern of prayer that he gave us directs that we go and do likewise. Now, we might continue on and list added concepts, all of which would bear the same witness and accord with what we have said. Let us instead, on the basis of these present concepts, discuss the problem at hand and draw some conclusions.
Our Relationship to Members of the Godhead What is and should be our relationship to the members of the Godhead? The words or deeds of either of them would be the words and deeds of the other in the same circumstance.
Thus any feelings of love, praise, awe, or worship that may fill our hearts when we receive the divine words will be the same no matter who is thought or known to be the author of them. And yet we do have a proper relationship to each member of the Godhead, in part at least because there are separate and severable functions which each performs, and also because of what they as one Godhead have done for us.
Our relationship with the Father is supreme, paramount, and preeminent over all others. He is the God we worship. It is his gospel that saves and exalts. He ordained and established the plan of salvation.
He is the one who was once as we are now. The life he lives is eternal life, and if we are to gain this greatest of all the gifts of God, it will be because we become like him.
Our relationship with the Father is one of parent and child. He is the one who gave us our agency. It was his plan that provided for a fall and an atonement. And it is to him that we must be reconciled if we are to gain salvation.
He is the one to whom we have direct access by prayer, and if there were some need—which there is not! Our relationship with the Son is one of brother or sister in the premortal life and one of being led to the Father by him while in this mortal sphere.