Gentle Joseki, part I by Pieter Mioch. The patterns. Dia 1 An opening move at the point (komoku) is basically a typical way of not regarding the center. Sensei’s Library, page: point, keywords: Opening, Joseki. SL is a large WikiWikiWeb about the gentle joseki series. Its direction is clearly. Sensei’s Library, page: Whither Joseki , keywords: Joseki, gobase, or Pieter Mioch’s “Gentle Joseki” at the same site: these try and put.

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The book In the Beginning by Ishigure, published by Kiseido, starts off with a long discussion pp. Figuratively jjoseki, a joseki is like a medicine.

Notice that if White leaves the corner alone, Black can not surround the corner cleanly with a single move. So Takemiya made a sanrensei against points and watched how Black tried to develop them. For instance, I find Go servers far more suitable for playing joseik. It did not directly address joseki but I interpreted it as a subtle chastisement of the state of local gameplay at the time. But take for example the one-line biographies of pro players. The moves C, D and especially E are not very tight, however, and do not help black ensuring territory yet.

If someone would be so kind, I think that the community here would greatly appreciate it.

Should one aim of SL be to provide a good reference for joseki, or just to select a suitable set of variations for learners? Go Seigen – The Pieter Mioch Interview, June 26th, Japan is weak because people study Shusaku and others of the past without understanding the essence of their play.

She’s back in her original industry and discipline so all this is a big win for her and our egntle. Yilun Yang’s book ‘Fundamental principles of Go’ has a chapter of exactly that.


Not game-losing but a bit too tight, have a look at a better shape for black in dia 7b. Simply adding variations from books as one finds them – that can easily overstep any idea of fair usage.

I see game reviews where even dan level players choose the wrong joseki. In the end, if it becomes possible for one person in the online community, it becomes possible for all of us. I think, to pick up Andrew’s point, that SL discussions are going in general to fall short of the polish of a magazine article; but with the advantages that you’ll get the perspective of several points of view, and updates over time.

It is the famous “Shusaku kosumi” named after the 19th century Go-Master who virtually won all his games on black by playing it.

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I am unable to download the sgf and you’ll need an account to view it. I am still trying to determine how helpful these would be for my level of understanding based on the sample pages PDF link. Chess Gnetle, a three-monthly periodical of the games of the top players in the world and we’re talking “telephone-book” thickness here, well over a thousand games an issue were its’ progenitors: I just finished searching for a good game example where black gets an easy win because of his shimaries.

It is a little low but all the same it’s way more positive compared to the play. Same comment for fuseki patterns, same comment and of particular interest to me about side patterns. White has no continuation which will make white 1 coming out good.

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If done right, those searches could be stored and thus linked to. It seems the vitality of the center oriented way of playing helps to reinforce one’s confidence or something, that is to say, I have no clue as to why white wins all the games, probably coincidence.


Names of this kind are incredibly dull and unreadable, but perfectly systematic.

I think SL is the best imaginable way to discuss joseki and why not settle the results into a structured set of pages, more or less like we are doing now. But perhaps it would be OK to have joseki AA13 foretc. Here is the beginning of the game. And Stefanif you call Kogo a reference you seem to ignore Charles’ comment which I think is a pertinent one. Figure 1 below shows a White attempt to break a simple joseki pattern. I have reasons for this. The joseki resists attack But josekis, when applied blindly, do not necessarily result in a fair outcome when the whole board is taken into consideration.

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True, we are all amateurs, so the content of SL has to be taken with a grain ventle salt. Also, SL Recent Changes have the advantage of showing which joseki is under discussion. Please remember that medicine that is not suited for an illness is a poison.

I find that I learn a lot about whole joseoi joseki by getting much stronger players pointing out to me on how to play in accordance with the whole board position and strategy.